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Next year marks 70 years since the signing of the United Nations charter.
Our own Rachel Martin recently talked with former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright,
who was also U.S. Ambassador to the UN, about its achievements and its shortcomings.
There are problems within the Secretariat. I think that it's slow acting, and it's a bureaucracy.
And I've always made jokes about the fact that the UN is a little bit like an organization run by a board of directors of 193 countries, or people,
who want to get their son-in-law a job.
If you had to point to one reform that could make a lot of difference, what would that be?
I do think that one of the reforms would be not to have what I call the dictatorship of the alphabet
where all of a sudden you end up with some country that should not be head of the Human Rights Council just because it's alphabetically in order.
As Libya was.
Yes, exactly. The Security Council's a little bit of a Rubik's cube in terms of trying to get solutions and trying to figure out the power of the veto.
I can't see the United States giving up our power of the veto.
So there are some serious issues in terms of who are the legitimate members, how does the Security Council operate?
I would like to talk a little bit more about how you see the United Nations providing leadership in this moment, especially on security issues.
明年是《联合国宪章》签署70周年。
近日NPR新闻的雷切尔・马丁采访了玛德琳・奥布莱特,
她是前美国国务卿、前美国驻联合国大使,请她谈谈联合国的成就和短处。
秘书处存在问题。我认为秘书处行动缓慢又存在官僚主义。
我总是会这样开玩笑,联合国有点像由193个国家和个人组成的董事会,
想给他们的女婿找份工作。
如果你要指出一项会造成很大不同的改革,你认为是哪个?
我认为有项改革应该是不包括我称为字母独裁的内容,
即你会突然发现有些国家仅仅因为字母顺序而无法领导联合国人权理事会。
利比亚就是。
没错。在试图解决问题和试图找出否决权力时,联合国安理会就像魔方。
我没看到美国放弃否决权。
那在涉及谁是合法成员等严重的问题时,安理会是如何运作的?
我希望你谈谈你怎么看待联合国现在发挥的领导作用,尤其是是在安全问题上的作用。
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