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Hana: Alright, so Ben, what do you think about the music industry recently?
哈娜：好，本，你怎么看最近的音乐界？
Ben: Recently? Actually, you know I don't really listen to the radio so I'm not really sure about popular music, but one thing I do is I read a lot about music news, so one thing I've been noticing is with all of these new programs and websites like iTunes, Spotify, the free music ...
本：最近的音乐界？实际上，你知道我不常听广播，所以我不太了解流行音乐，不过我会浏览大量音乐新闻，我一直在关注新程序还有iTunes、Spotify等网站以及免费音乐……
Hana: Like YouTube yeah?
哈娜：比如YouTube？
Ben: YouTube. Yeah, YouTube as well. Like sometimes musicians, we don't ... No one buys CDs anymore.
本：YouTube。对，还有YouTube。有时音乐家，我们不……现在没人再买CD了。
Hana: No.
哈娜：对。
Ben: Right? When was the last time you bought a CD? Do you remember?
本：对吧？你上次买CD是什么时候？你还记得吗？
Hana: I don't even remember. Probably like ten years ago.
哈娜：我不记得了。大概是10年前吧。
Ben: Right, so like with the internet and the increase of everyone having high speed internet all around the world, I think the industry is changing a lot, especially for musicians and how they get paid.
本：好，随着互联网的发展，现在世界上所有人的网速都很快，我认为音乐界改变了很多，尤其是对音乐家以及他们得到报酬的方式来说。
Hana: Yeah, true.
哈娜：对，没错。
Ben: It's interesting in that kind of way, but I think it's a little ... I think we need to change how we pay musicians because people can't make money anymore.
本：这值得注意，不过我认为……我认为我们应该改变支付音乐家报酬的方式，因为他们现在挣不到钱了。
Hana: No.
哈娜：嗯。
Ben: Used to sell CDs and receive a profit from that, but now people are on YouTube downloading music illegally.
本：以前他们通过出售CD可以得到收益，但是现在人们都在Youtube上非法下载音乐。
Hana: Yes.
哈娜：对。
Ben: Do you remember those programs that people ... What were they called? Like they were like downloader ... Peer to peer downloading software programs, like I think one of them was called Napster. It was one of the biggest ...
本：你记得那些程序吗？那些是什么来着？就是那种下载程序，点对点下载软件程序，其中一个程序是Napster。这是最大的下载程序之一……
Hana: Was it?
哈娜：是吗？
Ben: Yeah, yeah. It was huge.
本：对，是的。这个程序很受欢迎。
Hana: Okay.
哈娜：好。
Ben: You would download this ... I remember, it was about 15 years ago. You would download the program onto your computer and you'd search for something. Let's say Madonna, which was actually my first song that I ever downloaded illegally was Madonna because I liked her when I was a kid.
本：我记得大约15年前就能通过这些程序下载音乐了。你可以把音乐下载到电脑上，还可以进行搜索。我第一首非法下载的歌是麦当娜的歌曲，因为我小时候很喜欢麦当娜。
Hana: Okay.
哈娜：好。
Ben: Before my punk days.
本：在我玩朋克乐之前。
Hana: Alright. Right.
哈娜：好，好的。
Ben: So yeah, you type in the name of the artist you want to listen to and you'd down ... All these songs come up that people have placed on the internet.
本：输入你想听的音乐家的名字，然后下载。你可以搜索出人们放到网上的所有歌曲。
Hana: Right.
哈娜：对。
Ben: And you can download that and you can keep it and listen to it as many times as you want for free.
本：你可以下载并保存这些歌曲，可以想听多少遍就听多少遍，而且都是免费的。
Hana: Yeah.
哈娜：对。
Ben: And you didn't pay ... I didn't pay Madonna anything.
本：你没有支付……我没有付麦当娜任何钱。
Hana: No.
哈娜：没有。
Ben: Right? In that way, I think the music industry has changed a lot.
本：对吧？我认为从这一点来说，音乐界改变了很多。
Hana: Yeah, I think so.
哈娜：对，我也是这么认为的。
Ben: Yeah, yeah. I'm not sure if it's good or bad, probably bad.
本：嗯，对。我不确定这是好事还是坏事，可能是坏事。
Hana: You think?
哈娜：你认为是坏事？
Ben: For artists I think it's not good.
本：我认为对艺术家来说并不好。
Hana: For artists. Yeah.
哈娜：对艺术家来说，对。
Ben: Especially if they're not as popular, so if they do not have a very big record deal.
本：尤其是如果艺术家并不太出名的话，如果他们的唱片合约并不重要的话。
Hana: Yeah.
哈娜：对。
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