2. If once you accept that, or see the fact of it, or
refute it, then we can start from there.
要是你接受了,或者看到了这个事实,即便是反对它,我们都可以从那儿开始。
3. Bertha flushed, for she had asked herself the same question, much scorn was needed to
refute it.
伯莎脸红了,因为她扪心自问过这同一个问题。要反驳它需要极大的藐视。